controversial things about what the president brings up, closing loopholes, mortgage deductions, interest deductions, and number two, charitable deductions. when they talk about closing loopholes, do you think the president could be targeting that and expose what he considers corruption in order to loosen up the public perception in. >> yes. there is a proposal that you would limit the amount of money that can be deducted as a charitable contribution if you're above a certain income level. so if you, for example, you make more than $250,000 a year and you contribute $20,000 to charity, the proposal is that maybe you can't deduct all of that 20,000. only a portion of it. that limits the amount of money that people can deduct from their taxable income if they're wealthy. again, pressures the charities, forcing people more to be government charity as opposed to private charity. >> brian: varney and company will be coming up at 9:20 at which time he'll talk about this, but also what the cbo said yesterday. >> absolutely. the debt is out of control and we're running running with it.